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Contents:
SPIDE 1: Overcoming Fear
from "Diane F." <diane.chicoca at gmail.com> 1
and C Whisman <cherylw13 at earthlink.net> 2
and Anita <Anita at TheFiberArtist.com> 3
and Carol Metzger <likeagirlagain at yahoo.com> 4
Shaping Jackets
from Renee Ford <lhamo55 at earthlink.net> 5
and Jane Prater <jprater at carolina.rr.com> 6
Shaping jackets
from Jane Prater <jprater at carolina.rr.com> 7
and "Tamsin" <tamsin at mbay.net> 8
measurements for fitting knitting
from "Jeanne E. Hoffman" <jhoffman at rpa.net> 9
Measurements for fitting knitting
from Lena Wiman <lenaonthemountain at yahoo.co.uk> 10
Introductions
from "Anne Ronan" <anne.ronan at gmail.com> 11
Linen
from "Mikel Shilling" <MsMikel at cox.net> 12
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SPIDE 1: Overcoming Fear
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:20:02 -0700
From: "Diane F." <diane.chicoca at gmail.com>
Subject: [Knitfits] SPIDE 1: Overcoming Fear
I love the idea of a book discussion. Choosing a book that is still
in print, like Maggie Righetti's Sweater Design in Plain English is a
good choice.
About Chapter 1, Overcoming Your Fear of Failure, in my humble opinion...
I think the first two pages are wasted on the nature of criticism. I
didn't see a credential on the back jacket that had anything to do
with psychology or teaching. I hope she sticks to her knitting in the
rest of the book, which she *is* qualified to do.
The third page in this chapter was written for me, especially when she
talks about fearing that the sweater in progress will be a disaster.
I am working on a sweater now that I'm afraid will be a failure
(blogged about in
http://dfnojunk.typepad.com/tailfeathers/knitting_gentle_breeze_tee_2006/index.html
).
Can this fear be paralyzing? Yes. My first and only top down sweater
languished for over a year because I was afraid the set-in sleeves
wouldn't be right. Finally I ripped it out because I "knew" it
wouldn't be right.
The fourth page talks about the fear of "repercussions" from creating
a failure. Having other people think I'm a fool (stupid knitter)
isn't something I'm worried about too much, since I'm my own worst
critic.
So, Chapters 2 through 17 are supposed to minimize these fears by
showing us how to avoid design errors. Let's get to it.
--
Cheers,
Diane ( http://dfnojunk.typepad.com/tailfeathers )
Have fun, be safe, learn lots... do good
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:46:33 -0700
From: C Whisman <cherylw13 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] SPIDE 1: Overcoming Fear
I completely agree that there is a fear involved. For me, it's fear of
looking
at my finished project and finding I have "wasted" my time on something
that is both unflattering and a poor fit. I also don't worry about
others since
I too am my own worst critic. I think there is also an element of denial
involved, for me, in that I love the look of the sweater in my mind and what
the mirror reflects isn't the same.
Cheryl W.
Diane F. wrote:
> The fourth page talks about the fear of "repercussions" from creating
> a failure. Having other people think I'm a fool (stupid knitter)
> isn't something I'm worried about too much, since I'm my own worst
> critic.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:17:57 -0400
From: Anita <Anita at TheFiberArtist.com>
Subject: [Knitfits] SPIDE 1: Overcoming Fear
I want to respectfully disagree with Diane about the first 2 pages.
While Ms Righetti does not have a degree in psychology, the first 4
pages would come about from frank discussion with a group of women,
especially women born before the early 50's. Before we were not supposed
to do anything except look as pretty as we possibly could, do whatever
our fathers/husbands told us too and *never* embarrass our
grandmothers/mothers. The tapes that we hear in our heads can be so
loud as to be paralyzing even when we not only know better, but teach
others to value themselves and their accomplishments.
Case in point, I finished a top about a month ago, after sewing it
together the seam where the sleeve is sewn looked puckery. Now I know
to wash and block the thing, (without sewing in all the ends, just in
case) but do you think that that is what I did? No, it has been sitting
in the knitting bin next to my chair, because the voices, kept chanting
that it was ruined, it would never look good and why did I do this, when
I know I will never be any good at it. And besides that everyone who
sees it will wonder where *I* come off teaching knitting?
Now I do know that I *am* good at it. That if it was not right I would
rip the seam and fix it. That I have not had anyone criticize anything
I have made I years, (because I don't show it until it *is* right) but
if you think that that will quiet the voices, you are sadly mistaken.
So some of us do fear criticism and are our own worst critics, and
sometimes it is paralyzing. I do not live with critical people. But I
used to. I get a lot of praise for most of what I do, but I didn't
always. Do you think I hear praise and not the tapes in my head?
Absolutely Not!
This one chapter is not going to change anything, but if we read
these 4 pages over and over it might be a start.
BTW I have blocked the top, it is drying.
--
Anita in SE Indiana
e-mail Anita at TheFiberArtist.com
Blog: http://thefiberartist.blogspot.com/
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:53:40 -0500
From: Carol Metzger <likeagirlagain at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] SPIDE 1: Overcoming Fear
Thanks for your thoughts, Anita.
I think you touched on one thing that I wanted to say after reading Diane's
comment on the first two pages of this chapter. Maggie is 74. The book was
published in 1990. For comparison and perspective, _The Artist's Way_ was
published in 1992; _Singing at the Top of Our Lungs_, in 1994. One common
thread in these books is the empowerment of women and other humans and the
unleashing / harnessing of our creative power.
Maggie did not need to be a licensed psychologist to address the fears held
by many of the knitters she knew. Those thoughts and feelings were readily
available to any who asked in a safe environment, and safe environments were
almost a hallmark of the late '80's - early '90's.
And I understand Diane's impatience to get on with the process. And am I
reading into that an impatience with the buzzwords of that era? I have not
knit myself a sweater in decades because I was so upset with myself when I
outgrew my masterpieces one by one. I really really need to get over it.
(Title of my favorite Eagles song)
Carol
--
Carol F. Mason Metzger
CFM Designs
http://cfmdesigns.net/
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Shaping Jackets
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:12:34 -0700
From: Renee Ford <lhamo55 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] Shaping Jackets
Hi Heather, Have you considered sport weight linen and linen blends?
Or hemp? I'm in Tucson and find these fibers more comfortable and if
one sweats heavily in places linen dries faster than cotton so one
doesn't experience the clammy feeling one sometimes gets in a heavy
cotton garment. One of the reasons I like my linen and linen wool
socks;^) This past winter I found an interesting Italian sportweight
yarn called Ginestrella -a blend of linen/hemp/broom nice cool crisp
hand on Ebay that I'm slowly working into a modular knit top - the
needles are slightly larger gauge than I'm comfortable knitting with
for long periods of time (3.0mm) but the yarn is a joy to work with.
I recently got a copy of Mosiac Knits - for some time now I've been
wanting to use this method to convert Adinkra (from Ghana) designs
into slip stitch and use them as border designs on hems, button
bands and socks. Each design represents a proverb or saying and I've
wanted to do this for decades and I'm not getting any younger. I've
found 3x5 grid index cards I can copy my graphs on (and perhaps
laminate) and carry with me when I do the socks.
Looking forward to our book discussion beginning tomorrow, er, later today.
best wishes,. renee
At 12:40 AM 7/30/2006, you wrote:
>I also haven't found a yarn that really speaks to me. She needs cotton
>or a cotton blend because she lives in Arizona. I've been swatching
>with Knitpicks Shine Sport because I like the colors, but I've decided
>that the modal makes the fabric too limp for a jacket. I got some
>Cascade Sierra from the local yarn store. Great colors, but it's worsted
>weight and will probably turn out too heavy. I might end up with
>Brown Sheep Cotton Fleece, a yarn I know well, but would welcome
>other suggestions of sport or DK weight cotton blends that would
>actually work in a jacket.
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Message: 6
From: Jane Prater <jprater at carolina.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:58:49 -0400
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] Shaping Jackets
Renee,
I, too, live in warm country. I have recently purchased a quantity
of linen and am looking for suggestions of what to make. Are there
any particular patterns you have knit or adapted that you found
excellent? Did you use a lace st or st st or what? I'd value your
experience here.
Jane Prater
jprater at carolina.rr.com
http://merelyasuggestion.blogspot.com/
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jprater28209/my_photos
On Jul 30, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Renee Ford wrote:
> Hi Heather, Have you considered sport weight linen and linen blends?
> Or hemp? I'm in Tucson and find these fibers more comfortable and if
> one sweats heavily in places linen dries faster than cotton so one
> doesn't experience the clammy feeling one sometimes gets in a heavy
> cotton garment. One of the reasons I like my linen and linen wool
> socks;^) This past winter I found an interesting Italian sportweight
> yarn called Ginestrella -a blend of linen/hemp/broom nice cool crisp
> hand on Ebay that I'm slowly working into a modular knit top - the
> needles are slightly larger gauge than I'm comfortable knitting with
> for long periods of time (3.0mm) but the yarn is a joy to work with.
>
> I recently got a copy of Mosiac Knits - for some time now I've been
> wanting to use this method to convert Adinkra (from Ghana) designs
> into slip stitch and use them as border designs on hems, button
> bands and socks. Each design represents a proverb or saying and I've
> wanted to do this for decades and I'm not getting any younger. I've
> found 3x5 grid index cards I can copy my graphs on (and perhaps
> laminate) and carry with me when I do the socks.
>
> Looking forward to our book discussion beginning tomorrow, er,
> later today.
>
> best wishes,. renee
>
>
>
> At 12:40 AM 7/30/2006, you wrote:
>
>> I also haven't found a yarn that really speaks to me. She needs
>> cotton
>> or a cotton blend because she lives in Arizona. I've been swatching
>> with Knitpicks Shine Sport because I like the colors, but I've
>> decided
>> that the modal makes the fabric too limp for a jacket. I got some
>> Cascade Sierra from the local yarn store. Great colors, but it's
>> worsted
>> weight and will probably turn out too heavy. I might end up with
>> Brown Sheep Cotton Fleece, a yarn I know well, but would welcome
>> other suggestions of sport or DK weight cotton blends that would
>> actually work in a jacket.
>
>
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Shaping jackets
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Message: 7
From: Jane Prater <jprater at carolina.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:56:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] shaping jackets
One thing that has worked for me on my latest jacket which is Chanel-
esque. I knit the body in Debbie Bliss Cathay on a size 5-6 needles
(Carol's shaping). I chose a smaller yarn for the band and knit it
in garter stitch on a size 2. I am very pleased with the way it
hangs. No droop and I believe it is due to the tightness of the
band. A picture will be on my blog soon. Sorry.
Jane Prater
jprater at carolina.rr.com
http://merelyasuggestion.blogspot.com/
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jprater28209/my_photos
On Jul 29, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Heather Madrone wrote:
> I've been swatching for a Chanel-style jacket for my grandmother.
> I've made lots of pullovers that I really like, but I've never made
> a cardigan where the front band behaved the way I think a front
> band ought to behave. The bust dart formulas that work so well
> for me in pullovers seem to make the front band too long unless
> the cardigan is worn closed.
>
> I'm using Jean Frost's _Jackets_ as a floor plan (the herringbone
> stitch
> from Clarendon and the shape from Trilling). My grandmother is
> a kind of top-heavy oval (big bust, big pot belly that sticks out
> as far
> as her bust, slim hips). She has a lot of Chanel-style jackets and
> looks good in them, but I'm not sure what shaping accommodations
> to add so that this jacket will enhance what she's got.
>
> She'll be wearing the jacket open mostly.
>
> Should I short-row to give her extra length in front? If so,
> should I use
> a different formula than I use for pullovers? Will the front bands
> still
> hang right? Should I make the jacket mid-hip length instead of high
> hip length?
>
> I especially want this garment to turn out well because I adore my
> grandmother and probably won't get too many more chances to knit
> her something special.
>
> I also haven't found a yarn that really speaks to me. She needs
> cotton
> or a cotton blend because she lives in Arizona. I've been swatching
> with Knitpicks Shine Sport because I like the colors, but I've decided
> that the modal makes the fabric too limp for a jacket. I got some
> Cascade Sierra from the local yarn store. Great colors, but it's
> worsted
> weight and will probably turn out too heavy. I might end up with
> Brown Sheep Cotton Fleece, a yarn I know well, but would welcome
> other suggestions of sport or DK weight cotton blends that would
> actually work in a jacket.
>
> The fun part of this has been swatching all of the single-color
> slip-stitch
> patterns I can find. I think they have a lot of potential for ample
> garments because they hold their shape better than a lot of other
> stitch patterns. The dread stretch factor has always been a problem
> for me in getting sweaters to fit.
>
> OTN: a top-down, v-neck, set-in-sleeved plaid pullover for my
> 10-year-old son. Fit is a cinch because he has that broad-shouldered
> male V shape. As long as I get the colors right, he's happy to wear
> whatever I knit him, so I have almost no anxiety about this sweater.
>
> BTW, if you knit the plaid pattern (which Barbara Walker calls dice
> check) from Nicky Epstein's book (she lists it as gingham), be aware
> that Epstein got the color order wrong to have it really look like
> plaid or gingham. The intermediate color needs to be used on the
> rows where you knit straight across.
>
> I'm off to Nina's in a little while to meet several of you.
>
> --
> Heather Madrone (heather at madrone.com)
> http://www.madrone.com/Knitting/knitting.html
>
> Knitting is forgiving.
>
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Message: 8
From: "Tamsin" <tamsin at mbay.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:41:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] shaping jackets
What would happen if, instead of using short rows to add length over one
area, across the whole front, as in a pullover, you were to shape each front
separately, so as to leave the center front shorter as well as the sides?
It would certainly be more fiddly; you'd probably still want the center
front somewhat longer than the sides, so you'd need less shaping toward the
center. . . . Hmmm.
I've only done this in my head, just now. Seems like it might work, but
I'll have to try swatching sometime. Have any of you tried this for real?
If I'm missing an obvious reason why it wouldn't work, please let me know.
Tamsin
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measurements for fitting knitting
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Message: 9
From: "Jeanne E. Hoffman" <jhoffman at rpa.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:41:53 -0400
Subject: [Knitfits] measurements for fitting knitting
<x-charset windows-1250>Hi all –
Thank you, Heather, so much for starting up this list. I’ve always read your
posts on AK with interest. I'm not as full-busted as you, and have lost my
waistline the past few years, but your experience with shaping garments to
fit is always educational.
Since outgrowing the size range on most knitting patterns, I had to learn
how to size patterns larger and still hopefully get a flattering garment. As
you may know, it isn't always a matter of making a garment bigger. It's a
matter of where to make it bigger and where to keep it the same.
Recently I started teaching a vest class, and have another one coming up in
the fall. I use my own designs in the classes, and offer customized fitting
to students. I'm always looking for information on actual measurements and
finished garment measurements other than the usual bust/chest, waist, hip,
and back length measurements that are easily found.
Searching through as many knitting books and websites as I can find for
basic fitting information, I’ve yet to feel that I've found the One Book or
the One Website. Mostly I want charts of detailed measurements. I want to
know things like neck widths, neck to shoulder lengths, sleeve lengths
(measure from where?), and so on, hopefully without spending hundreds of
dollars for the information in a hardbound book.
>From what I've found so far on the 'net, the measurements I want for
knitting, such as the width of the neck or neckline, are not easily
accessible from the measurements that sewers or clothing manufacturers use.
However, I did find one website, The Renaissance Tailor at
http://www.vertetsable.com/demos_toiles.htm, with detailed how-to's on what
to measure.
I wonder if it would be possible for the Knitfits website to have some
reference information on it (other than an archive) for how and where to
measure the body, as well as existing standardized sizes. I'd like to see
measurements such as neck widths, front shoulder to shoulder, back shoulder
to shoulder (which is usually broader than the front especially as people
age); how to measure for set-in sleeves (I've had to shorten mine as much as
4" from the pattern), and how to calculate changing the rate of increases or
decreases.
Of course, some information on how to adjust fit through using short rows
and darts created by decreases/increases would useful:
1. From what part of the back to what part should short rows be used to
adjust for a dowager's hump? (All across the back above the armholes?)
2. What part of the front should short rows be used to allow for a rounded
tummy? (From the bottom of the breastbone? To where?)
3. Where on the front should short rows be used to allow for a full bust?
How wide an area? Where should darts be used? How long should they be?
4. What are some problems the knitter should watch out for when adjusting
using short rows or darts?
The more information and measurements a knitter has, the better job she/he
can do on the project.
Looking forward to more Knitfits - Jeanne
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:22:46 +0100 (BST)
From: Lena Wiman <lenaonthemountain at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] measurements for fitting knitting
Hi all,
I just found a for me very useful site on measuring
and hope you like it too.
http://www.chicknits.com/rambles/archives/2006_07_28.html#000890
or as tinyurl.com writes it:
http://tinyurl.com/ljqml
Lena
http://notoriskstickare.blogspot.com/
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Introductions
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:44:58 -0700
From: "Anne Ronan" <anne.ronan at gmail.com>
Subject: [Knitfits] Introductions
My name is Anne. I was born and raised in Boston, but have lived in Oakland
CA for about 25 years now. (I was sorry to miss the Bay Area Ample lunch
yesterday, but already had plans.) I am just over 50 years old. No spouse
or significant other, no kids, no pets. Eight siblings, several of whom have
kids, so still part of a big family, although most of them are back in New
England. I am an attorney: was a litigator for 20 years, but now work with
the courts as a research attorney, which leaves me much more free time.
Other hobbies: reading, mostly fiction of all sorts, including mysteries
and SF; wine (visiting wineries, wine tasting events, and reading about
wine, as well as drinking it--although that is my favorite part); and bike
riding. Oh, and football for half the year: Go Niners!
I have knit since I was 8 or 9. Did a fair amount when young, through the
college years and beyond, but then began to focus more on other
needlework/fiber hobbies, primarily quilting and needlepoint. Slowly
returned to knitting as my primary fiber hobby back in the mid-90s, and
have now dropped the others altogether. I knit mostly at night, while
relaxing and or watching tv, several hours a week. I get more done during
football sason, when I have one or two televised games to knit during on
each Sunday. Great time to do my Christmas knitting.
I made sweaters for myself when young, but only one, some years ago, since
I became ample. I have knit probably a dozen afghans over the years, and a
couple of sweaters for my mother lately, using short rows for her dowager
hump (thank you AK list). But I generally prefer small projects that I can
finish more quickly: lots of baby blankets and kids' sweaters/hats/mittens
for my nieces and nephews and various charity groups. Socks have become my
staple over the last several years: I always have a couple of pairs on the
needles (I prefer dpns), so that at least one sock will always be at the
mindless knitting stage to take along for outside-home knitting.
Current knitting goals include knitting a sweater that fits me well;
knitting and steeking a fair isle sweater for myself (I have done fair isle
hats and mittens, but no sweater; I have a Philosophers Wool kit in my
stash at present); and continue working on my long-term project, a Barbara
Walker sampler afghan. Oh--and working through my stash. I went a little
wild some years ago when I discoverd I could get good buys through internet
buying.
Thanks for setting up the list, Heather. I have the Rhigetti book (won it
when Shelda was giving away some items earlier), and have read most of it.
It will be nice to get other's thoughts on it.
Anne in Oakland
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Message: 12
From: "Mikel Shilling" <MsMikel at cox.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:04:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] linen
Jane:
I recently finished the Crystal Cove by JustOneMoreRow in violet linen. It
was fun to make and really looks good. I get compliments everytime I wear
it.
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From: "Jane Prater" <jprater at carolina.rr.com>
To: "Knitting to fit the generous form" <knitfits at twobar.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Knitfits] Shaping Jackets
> Renee,
>
> I, too, live in warm country. I have recently purchased a quantity
> of linen and am looking for suggestions of what to make. Are there
> any particular patterns you have knit or adapted that you found
> excellent? Did you use a lace st or st st or what? I'd value your
> experience here.
> Jane Prater
> jprater at carolina.rr.com
> http://merelyasuggestion.blogspot.com/
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jprater28209/my_photos
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Renee Ford wrote:
>
>> Hi Heather, Have you considered sport weight linen and linen blends?
>> Or hemp? I'm in Tucson and find these fibers more comfortable and if
>> one sweats heavily in places linen dries faster than cotton so one
>> doesn't experience the clammy feeling one sometimes gets in a heavy
>> cotton garment. One of the reasons I like my linen and linen wool
>> socks;^) This past winter I found an interesting Italian sportweight
>> yarn called Ginestrella -a blend of linen/hemp/broom nice cool crisp
>> hand on Ebay that I'm slowly working into a modular knit top - the
>> needles are slightly larger gauge than I'm comfortable knitting with
>> for long periods of time (3.0mm) but the yarn is a joy to work with.
>>
>> I recently got a copy of Mosiac Knits - for some time now I've been
>> wanting to use this method to convert Adinkra (from Ghana) designs
>> into slip stitch and use them as border designs on hems, button
>> bands and socks. Each design represents a proverb or saying and I've
>> wanted to do this for decades and I'm not getting any younger. I've
>> found 3x5 grid index cards I can copy my graphs on (and perhaps
>> laminate) and carry with me when I do the socks.
>>
>> Looking forward to our book discussion beginning tomorrow, er,
>> later today.
>>
>> best wishes,. renee
>>
>>
>>
>> At 12:40 AM 7/30/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>> I also haven't found a yarn that really speaks to me. She needs
>>> cotton
>>> or a cotton blend because she lives in Arizona. I've been swatching
>>> with Knitpicks Shine Sport because I like the colors, but I've
>>> decided
>>> that the modal makes the fabric too limp for a jacket. I got some
>>> Cascade Sierra from the local yarn store. Great colors, but it's
>>> worsted
>>> weight and will probably turn out too heavy. I might end up with
>>> Brown Sheep Cotton Fleece, a yarn I know well, but would welcome
>>> other suggestions of sport or DK weight cotton blends that would
>>> actually work in a jacket.
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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